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PSI Philosophy



PSI Batch 222-16
Last Weekend, I got bitten by the PSI Philosophy bug.

PSI stands for People Synergistically Involved (PSI) Leadership Success Seminar. "The seminar is based on the fundamental principle that each individual possesses unlimited untapped potential. Unlocking this allows a person to achieve greater results and abundance. What hinder us from achieving what we want are self-limiting beliefs about who we are and what we can do. These act as barriers between our goals and us. The PSI Leadership Success Seminar provides the opportunity for us to examine these beliefs as well as experience new ways to overcome them."

I know that it is a bit vague and that was my first reaction too. At first, I don't understand why I need to pay P10,080 for leadership principles and strategies that I thought I already learned in P&G. I was dead wrong. The 4-day PSI Basic seminar blew my mind away and woke me up from my degrading and doomed life. I became aware of what life is all about and how to live life to its fullest.

So what is PSI Basic Course all about?
- It is a lesson about life and provides a formula for achieving peace of mind.
- It simplifies complex ideas into basic guiding principles through experiential learning environment.
- It is based on universal Christian values and the Laws of Attraction and Fairness.

I cannot share beyond this point because we have an agreement on confidentiality. Majority of the seminar is based on experiential exercises and heart-felt sharing from the participants. I would like to respect that confidentiality because if I share some of the concepts, it might be taken out of context.

Thanks to Kokoy Reonisto for waking me up from my doomed life. Keep up the great work!!


How much will you pay for peace of mind? How much will you pay for getting the secrets to a life of abundance and wealth?


PSI Batch 222-24
Thank you to the PSI Family for the warm welcome! My journey to a life of wealth and abundance starts now.

PSI Batch 222-14
I am a proud member of PSI Basic Batch 222! Thank you to Ka Edong for inviting me to this life changing seminar.

If you would like to attend, the next batch is on:

PSI Leadership Success Batch 223: August 7-10, 2008
August 7, Thursday – 6pm to 12mn
August 8, Friday – 6pm to 12mn
August 9, Saturday – 9am to 7pm
August 10, Sunday – 9am to 8pm

PSI Leadership Success Website
Purposeful Stewardship InstituteUnit 604 Metropolitan Terraces, Metropolitan Ave., Makati City
Mobile: +63 (918) 578 5981Mobile: +63 (927) 221 2460


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Text and Photos by Anton Diaz. Copyright 2008.

PS. Congratulations to Ateneo for winning last Sunday's game against La Salle! Babawi kami sa second round.

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Ahh... another Large Group Awareness Training (LGAT) spinoff. Smells like Landmark Forum. Please google: "PSI + Cult".

Posted by: cultaware | Jul 8, 2008 7:22:44 PM

Wow... congratulations Anton! So batch 222 ka? Guess what... Batch 79 ako! That was yeeeears ago. Memorable ito kasi ka-batch ko ang boss ko. Kaming dalawa yung "guinea pigs", and then other employees were subsequently enrolled as well.

Posted by: watson | Jul 8, 2008 8:13:10 PM

Congrats! I remember the agape sunday lunch. I attended PSI back in 1995. Fun! Fun! Fun!

Posted by: lovely p | Jul 8, 2008 9:45:32 PM

i have a handful of friends who are PSI graduates. I guess the success of sessions or groups like these highly take into account the willingness of the person to dig deep into himself. so it may work for some while it may not be as effective for others.

what i didn't like about it was that some of the graduates made me feel inadequate as a person because i wasn't part of PSI, sort of implying a "clique" *shrug*. i had to politely tell them that i was happy where i am with my life and was not interested. i also told them that if my conscience did bother me one day, then maybe i would give it a try.

please don't get me wrong. they're a great bunch of people. what they made me realize was that not all people are lucky enough to be brought up with a good moral compass and it is groups like PSI that can radically change your outlook if you only let them.

interesting topic anton!

Posted by: jayvee f. | Jul 9, 2008 2:40:32 AM

PSI is back na pala.

About 5 years ago, there was a big infighting in the leadership. I thought that was the end of PSI Philippines. I always wondered who won the power struggle -- looks like its Kokoy.

And the source of the fight? What else -- money. I guess not everyone believed in what they preached--givers gain.


Posted by: The Secret | Jul 9, 2008 3:18:27 AM

Most of these LGAT trainings use brainwashing techniques - hence Anton's giddy feelings about it. Please do yourselves a favor and research thoroughly before deciding to join PSI or EST or Landmark Forum or any other organization claiming miraculous life changing results. I've read a lot about the damage done by trainings like these to family members. These pseudo psychiatry/psychology like workshops are unsupervised and are done by con artists.

Posted by: cultaware | Jul 9, 2008 6:20:59 AM

How much will you pay for peace of mind? How much will you pay for getting the secrets to a life of abundance and wealth? - To answer your question, Anton, I would pay a lot. But I believe that there is no magic bullet to happiness. The same way there is no shortcut to good health - Just exercise and don't eat too much. Taking the shortcut by popping a pill results to side effects.

Posted by: cultaware | Jul 9, 2008 6:31:56 AM

Judging from the photos and the resulting giddiness with which you write, there must be some sort of "brainwashing" involved here. And it all looks just a little too "senti" for me; saying "I love you" before feeding someone??? Mimicking a choo-choo train during the so-called "embraso" tradition?! No, thanks.

Posted by: lori | Jul 9, 2008 8:57:20 AM

I'm batch 90 something (so bad I forgot). But I was the last batch before the "issue" of closing PSI Philippines. It was my brother who introduced me to PSI (he finished all PSI courses and coaches sometimes) and I decided to join because I saw how much it changed him. He's a much better person. And true enough the seminar was life changing. I enjoyed it and well, learned from it. :)

So far all the people I know who joined PSI are normal and doesn't seem to be brainwashed. They just have much more positive outlook in life. Is that too bad?

Posted by: abi | Jul 9, 2008 10:04:46 AM

a couple of months ago,
i went on a date with a nice girl
who'd just gone through the Landmark Forum;

she spent practically the night raving about it,
and i felt that she was giving me a sales pitch.

hahaha!


LGATs... very interesting.

now it makes me wonder if "Days With the Lord"
can be considered as a Catholic version?

i'm not sure how that goes these days,
but a bunch of my Ateneo HS classmates
were part of the very first batch,

and what i distinctly recall that
the dawning of self-awareness,
the discovery of Agapē,
and yes,
the aura of secrecy and confidentiality,
were very apparent in them.


looking back now,
their reactions were
very much like those of my friends
who have gone through PSI and Landmark Forum.


food for thought. hmmmm....

Posted by: Manila Boy | Jul 9, 2008 10:27:10 AM

p.s.

Meg's cute!

Posted by: Manila Boy | Jul 9, 2008 10:34:57 AM

What I like about PSI is that it is founded upon Christian Values and Teachings. They are complimentary to Bo Sanchez's teachings and even that of Catholic Church. I like the way PSI packaged the learning experiences to hit you at your core to wake you up from your sleep.

It uses Nuero Linguistic Programming techniques to make you the best person that you can be.

I'm asking permission from PSI if I can share some of the modules or concepts. I know that this cloud of secrecy is a bit of turn off for some. But I also understand why PSI need to do it because it might be taken out of context.

Also, I think the network marketing-type of marketing tactics they use is out of date and needs to change.

I plan to share with you as much information as I can so that you will be more informed when you make your decision.

It is true that we should be careful with Large Group Awareness Training. In Manila, the two biggest are PSI and Landmark Forum. There is an OCCI group but I've never heard of them. I plan to take all of them (haha) to share my own review and perspective about all of these LGAT's.

But see, the key in evaluating all these LGAT's is by the results of their graduates.

I think to live an awesome life, you need to be at peace with yourself. The LGAT's are techniques to achieve that and you can only resonate with one approach.

Posted by: anton | Jul 9, 2008 11:28:27 AM

Thanks for your response, Anton.

I googled "People Synergistically Involved + Christian" your website came up first. I don't see any other info claiming their allegiance to christian values. Could it be another marketing sham?

I also googled "nlp + People Synergistically Involved + PSI". check out the results for yourself.

If the key in evaluating all these LGAT's is by the results of their graduates, then how about there results of these graduates: http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/1/19772.html?1092876515&bcsi_scan_D4A612CF62FE9576=Xvctk4O7nHymZiIDWvwj0QgAAAC/HQYK&bcsi_scan_filename=19772.html

Posted by: cultaware | Jul 9, 2008 11:54:26 AM

All I'm saying is that organizations can make a lot of claims. Iridology claims to be able to detect diseases by looking at the eyes, Ernie Baron claims to charge batteries with a plastic triangle. Heck, I've seen preachers asking you to touch the television screen to be healed. I applaud people who attend these seminars with desires to live a better and more fulfilled life. I also think it's fair to investigate these claims and make sure that they are indeed true. More importantly, we need to know if they are safe. Yes, some people might encounter life changing realizations from attending these seminars -- But if also a significant number of attendees also encounter negative effects, people need to be aware of this also.
Anton, thank you for keeping this forum open to comments. I believe, in the end, when people know all the sides, they can make an informed decision.

PS. Landmark forum has been banned in France. You might also want to watch the expose documentary and read up before spending your hard earned cash and going.

PPS. Personally, I think Dan Gilbert makes more sense when you talk about happiness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTO_dZUvbJA

Posted by: cultaware | Jul 9, 2008 1:09:35 PM

I took up all the PSI seminars a while back.

First things first. PSI Asia actually closed down before, well, due to money. All of the facilitators promised to not continue PSI due to legal reasons. All of them went off to set their own program (Joey has PALS, Mon and Rene focused more on corporate, Beth went back to ECCP)... except for Kokoy. He seems to have broken the promise (Anton go ahead and ask him about PSI Asia & what Beth MacDonald's last words were).

Having said that, the philosophy is simply what you've seen in the Secret, as well as in many behaviorial science programs. The problem is not with the philosophy itself, but how it can be used. Some people cling to the philosophy as another religion, some people do act as if in a cult...

And there are many people, like myself, who were able to think critically about it. There are some concepts there that are useful for everyday life. There are some that are just totally bullshit. I can honestly say I've used the useful concepts and made my life better because of it.

Just like any teaching, learn to look at it critically. Whether it's religion, a movement, a lecture, find what is helpful and what is not. Don't blindly buy everything you hear, and you'll do fine.

Posted by: Watchman | Jul 9, 2008 6:55:44 PM

As they always say, "prove it right, prove it wrong". What works for one, may not work for another person.

Be totally responsible for your life and your results.

Posted by: Richard | Jul 9, 2008 8:31:31 PM

Richard, brainwashing is a very iffy thing when it comes to responsibility. The very essence of these LGATs is to try and convince you that what they're doing is good for you. Yes some people like Watchman can critically think about what to take in and what not to. How about all the people who are duped and shell out the cash? Or worse, get sucked up to attend more training and or do volunteer work for the organization? Afterall, if they just read Anton's article and not the comments, they would think that it's a double thumbs up course. I just think there should be a warning beside the heading.

Posted by: cultaware | Jul 9, 2008 9:14:26 PM

Interesting: http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/Warning_signs_of_dysfunctional_cults.html

* Craving for followers; seductive recruiting strategies or heavy-handed tactics of proselytizing or conversion (including “love bombing,” that is, showering prospective recruits with friendly, but strategic, attention).

* Expensive entry fees or initiations.

Posted by: cultaware | Jul 9, 2008 9:27:45 PM

@ Cultaware,

Thanks for the interesting link above and I buy the LGAT argument for the like of Landmark Forum. I have a lot of P&G friends who attended the landmark forum. They were literally just listening to the speaker all day long.

On PSI, the philosophy is very sound and one could argue-- common sense. But the experiential sessions and sharing helped. I can understand the comment on the cult-like behaviors and thanks for pointing out the watchouts.

@ Watchman,
I will ask Kokoy about PSI Asia and Beth Macdonald's last words. I'm digging up the history and can someone share the story and history of PSI in Manila?

In the end, this is a very healthy discussion because LGAT's are intensifying their efforts in Manila. I have not seen any discussion of this kind in the local scene. Most of the links by @cultaware points to old posts and discussions in the US.

As for PSI, I aim to "prove it right,or prove it wrong."

Posted by: anton | Jul 9, 2008 10:37:17 PM

Thanks, the P&G comment also brings out the question: 1. Should companies (like P&G) pay for these kinds of controversial training and 2. Should their managers recommend/encourage (recruit may be the more accurate term) their subordinates to attend? Food for thought for the HR/Training Managers.

Yes, a closer look is indeed what we need to do. I'm glad that the internet houses old, new, foreign and now local discussions about LGATs. This way, we can learn from the experience of others.

Posted by: cultaware | Jul 9, 2008 11:39:56 PM

....are any of these commentators belongs to any foreign countries besides philippines and are they related to any organizations associations like inteligence agencies of any kinds? because if they do that is where all these back & forth confusions questionings arguments exchanges are all about....meaning 'conflict' of interests....of course everyone must pay attentions to any verbal physical relationship emotional aspects of 'danger' to protect one's self just like i do and finfing out the world are full of people from around the world who are 'victims' of bad selfish greedy racists incompetent souless one sided power hungry international political 'policies' that messes up so many people's beautiful lives security & agendas like some neighborhoods conflicts like some family affairs or some spouses like mine or this present u.s. president who refused to use international diplomacies american president refused to used united nations diplomatic corps as in 'round table' to discuss international issues 'critical' to lives of united nations members initially he didnt want to use even courts to sue the bad guys for illegal activities 'instead' he took the whole american nation to wars not to endanger americans but to 'severely' divide the world initially republicans downing democrats independents positive world wide activities{excluding criminals of course}by him going base to bases in every different countries telling different stories at different years to alarmed chaotic in nature a particular subjects when convenient at that time so americans foreigners alike around the world can be angry and fear everytime they raised international 'security' issues....reason i decided not to be impartial i cannot take sides coz both parties are involved in some kind of 'illegal' activities in a way so why bother going to them but there is no justice in america....american honesty are for sale in the past coz 'damaged' are already DONE so americans in general do not want to get involved so g.bush uses the europeans so he can get under the rug their sides initially by basically making europeans feel they are also americans coz they are caucasians or white people decade ago and now when damaged is done to the world he goes to asia....asia who learned to mind their own business and MOVED FORWARD now are suddenly surprised shocked that this present american president's white men allies knew everything from the beginning but didnt sent the right foreign envoy decade ago but just now coz damaged to the world is done so now he goes around wanting HUMAN RIGHTS but american administrations are the one that called for WAR IN TERRORISM but people said american government are the terrorists coz they let it{tragedies} openly happened they waited for it to happened{all tragedies}so as an american i ignored the chaotic international political policies of the american president i embraced without any choice coz he is in charge....so i go to philippines thru writings giving them many ideas that for worked for white americans past decade while depriving asians & filipinos in particular the wealth that should have gone to filipinos first before anyone but it didnt happened that way i always wish i am NOT limited to throw away great ideas 'publicly' coz i know filipinos are in general friendly good happy creative talented people unless they needed money badly then they are one of the weakest humans in this world just like other needy foreign countries like americas europe asia africa latin america etc. etc.....meaning i was affected greatly by bad political judgements of his policies i am now NOT free as i used to meaning what happened to 'individuals' RESULTS anywhere is not always 100% because of GROUP AWARENESS PROGRAMS LIKE THE ONES YOU MENTIONED HERE that you guys are arguing about here in anton's our awesome planet bloggers corner IT CAN BE THAT THEY ARE an accidental associations to money launderings drug related human illegal traffickers or was in a political paths or corruptions cases so pressures tensions around are mounting if false informations are 'spread' on those individuals including politicians pastors etc.....meaning they are cases of several multi chaotic events-enviromental affairs mixed with all the unknown surprises in it....just like what happened to me i am 100% sure i am only a housewife NO bad associations whatever but when i was harrassed decades ago i found out i have no HUMAN RIGHTS i am an american by name only that was scarry and it made me angry out of human decency of course....so i fought back but if the law enforcements are involved in bad activities just like if our own american's president have something different beliefs-agendas than mine then if i have a problem they can caused havocs and bad things to happened especially if they do not listen on good advanced warning like HELLO you white people up there in the govt. are doing something bad....means nothing to them....then they go around 'messing' entire universe instead of a simple 'awareness' program like WE ARE ALL DOING THE SAME THINGS SO BE CAREFUL WE DONT HURT EACH OTHER....meaning those political warnings of words could wiped out all the tragedies of this planet a decade ago but NO he must go around base to bases for many years instead of those simple warnings so the world know they are all in it but too late now coz damaged to the world had been done and he has 6 months left to go so make sure our future american president 'will not play international games' again ever....make them truthful right there right now NOT decade later so just he can 'blame' someone else....if GOD will forgive even the bad things that pres bush his men did behind our backs i will carry them and make it good & better for the rest of the world coz i am only a housewife with no manpowers no resources no negative attachements of anykind except for one thing 'but' i can listen to positive opinions i can write about good healthy things i can inspire the passive the lazy i can talk about dreams i can make people laughed about things that depresses anger and feared by others....meaning i have been i was i am and still now helping cleansing painting the world with good thoughts good memories laughters happiness instead of CHAOS that should be for any law enforcements govt. militay to do NOT MINE....so group awareness or religions cult or not cannot be possibly the only reasons why bad things happened to people what people should be aware is NOT TO BECOME MEAN AND JUDGEMENTAL do not attack other people if their opinions are different than yours remember we are all 'raised' by different people races communities religions different family enviroments beliefs & traditions....so that is common senses that we will have different opinions BUT MUST STAY AWAY FROM those who physically mentally socially harm us 'intentionally' coz of conflicting self or economic interests thank you viewers thank you philippines.....

Posted by: gmmahoney | Jul 10, 2008 12:53:15 AM

....are any of these commentators belongs to any foreign countries besides philippines and are they related to any organizations associations like inteligence agencies of any kinds? because if they do that is where all these back & forth confusions questionings arguments exchanges are all about....meaning 'conflict' of interests....of course everyone must pay attentions to any verbal physical relationship emotional aspects of 'danger' to protect one's self just like i do and finfing out the world are full of people from around the world who are 'victims' of bad selfish greedy racists incompetent souless one sided power hungry international political 'policies' that messes up so many people's beautiful lives security & agendas like some neighborhoods conflicts like some family affairs or some spouses like mine or this present u.s. president who refused to use international diplomacies american president refused to used united nations diplomatic corps as in 'round table' to discuss international issues 'critical' to lives of united nations members initially he didnt want to use even courts to sue the bad guys for illegal activities 'instead' he took the whole american nation to wars not to endanger americans but to 'severely' divide the world initially republicans downing democrats independents positive world wide activities{excluding criminals of course}by him going base to bases in every different countries telling different stories at different years to alarmed chaotic in nature a particular subjects when convenient at that time so americans foreigners alike around the world can be angry and fear everytime they raised international 'security' issues....reason i decided not to be impartial i cannot take sides coz both parties are involved in some kind of 'illegal' activities in a way so why bother going to them but there is no justice in america....american honesty are for sale in the past coz 'damaged' are already DONE so americans in general do not want to get involved so g.bush uses the europeans so he can get under the rug their sides initially by basically making europeans feel they are also americans coz they are caucasians or white people decade ago and now when damaged is done to the world he goes to asia....asia who learned to mind their own business and MOVED FORWARD now are suddenly surprised shocked that this present american president's white men allies knew everything from the beginning but didnt sent the right foreign envoy decade ago but just now coz damaged to the world is done so now he goes around wanting HUMAN RIGHTS but american administrations are the one that called for WAR IN TERRORISM but people said american government are the terrorists coz they let it{tragedies} openly happened they waited for it to happened{all tragedies}so as an american i ignored the chaotic international political policies of the american president i embraced without any choice coz he is in charge....so i go to philippines thru writings giving them many ideas that for worked for white americans past decade while depriving asians & filipinos in particular the wealth that should have gone to filipinos first before anyone but it didnt happened that way i always wish i am NOT limited to throw away great ideas 'publicly' coz i know filipinos are in general friendly good happy creative talented people unless they needed money badly then they are one of the weakest humans in this world just like other needy foreign countries like americas europe asia africa latin america etc. etc.....meaning i was affected greatly by bad political judgements of his policies i am now NOT free as i used to meaning what happened to 'individuals' RESULTS anywhere is not always 100% because of GROUP AWARENESS PROGRAMS LIKE THE ONES YOU MENTIONED HERE that you guys are arguing about here in anton's our awesome planet bloggers corner IT CAN BE THAT THEY ARE an accidental associations to money launderings drug related human illegal traffickers or was in a political paths or corruptions cases so pressures tensions around are mounting if false informations are 'spread' on those individuals including politicians pastors etc.....meaning they are cases of several multi chaotic events-enviromental affairs mixed with all the unknown surprises in it....just like what happened to me i am 100% sure i am only a housewife NO bad associations whatever but when i was harrassed decades ago i found out i have no HUMAN RIGHTS i am an american by name only that was scarry and it made me angry out of human decency of course....so i fought back but if the law enforcements are involved in bad activities just like if our own american's president have something different beliefs-agendas than mine then if i have a problem they can caused havocs and bad things to happened especially if they do not listen on good advanced warning like HELLO you white people up there in the govt. are doing something bad....means nothing to them....then they go around 'messing' entire universe instead of a simple 'awareness' program like WE ARE ALL DOING THE SAME THINGS SO BE CAREFUL WE DONT HURT EACH OTHER....meaning those political warnings of words could wiped out all the tragedies of this planet a decade ago but NO he must go around base to bases for many years instead of those simple warnings so the world know they are all in it but too late now coz damaged to the world had been done and he has 6 months left to go so make sure our future american president 'will not play international games' again ever....make them truthful right there right now NOT decade later so just he can 'blame' someone else....if GOD will forgive even the bad things that pres bush his men did behind our backs i will carry them and make it good & better for the rest of the world coz i am only a housewife with no manpowers no resources no negative attachements of anykind except for one thing 'but' i can listen to positive opinions i can write about good healthy things i can inspire the passive the lazy i can talk about dreams i can make people laughed about things that depresses anger and feared by others....meaning i have been i was i am and still now helping cleansing painting the world with good thoughts good memories laughters happiness instead of CHAOS that should be for any law enforcements govt. militay to do NOT MINE....so group awareness or religions cult or not cannot be possibly the only reasons why bad things happened to people what people should be aware is NOT TO BECOME MEAN AND JUDGEMENTAL do not attack other people if their opinions are different than yours remember we are all 'raised' by different people races communities religions different family enviroments beliefs & traditions....so that is common senses that we will have different opinions BUT MUST STAY AWAY FROM those who physically mentally socially harm us 'intentionally' coz of conflicting self or economic interests thank you viewers thank you philippines.....

Posted by: gmmahoney | Jul 10, 2008 12:53:16 AM

@Anton

-- Why do you say you want to prove them right or wrong. Isn't that against the principles of PSI to think only positive all the time?

@Watchman or anybody out there.

-- I attended the PSI basic as well but didnt buy into the Shooting Star Cirle and the Heroic Eagle Thing. I hope you or anyone could help me.

There's this seminar that I attended that was offered only once by PSI Asia. I forgot the name of the seminar and I want to know more about it now since it had a very big impact on me.

The facilitator was a visiting woman of french/vietnamese origin. She was teaching a course on how to solve problems by "positioning" people and assigning the people "elements" of the problem. The people, based on their feelings and what seems to be comfortable with them, would go around and try to be close or even stay away from other people. And based on the position of the elements (as represnted by the people), she will draw insights

I forgot the name of the technique. I remember Beth McDonald to be one of my classmates in that seminar.

I am trying desparately to google this but to no avail. So I was hoping that you would know anyone who could lead me to the answer.

Thanks.

Posted by: The Secret | Jul 10, 2008 1:04:12 AM

....let me make some viewers problems easier than more complicated{could take million of years in thorough explanations are needed}prove it right prove it wrong are 'both' positive things to do{reason}coz of balance of nature{weighing cannot be only on left side}it s doesnt matter what any lady of asian european americas africas down under etc.etc will do will create will build will formed will equate will design will arranged or re arranged or draw insights never ending etc. etcwhatever whoever whenever human beings will ever decide it will all lead to one thing which are RESULTS....NOW everything in life depends on the results anyone have created{remember the world is huge not just philippines}....NOW you want bad good great best excellent etc. or wonderful results also depends on how anyone did well on what they DID! considering what was 'present'{happenings} around them....NOW are we TALKING ABOUT the present results or the further later results from present results that will results later or middle later or later than later{based}on particular timeline from what ever that happened already in the past on what YOU wanted to achieved or dream about ahead{which is hopefully only positive wonderful events}i can spare one example:a man unfortunately was killed by his friends what do you think loved ones other people should do react? your{loved ones too}answers will bear a results meaning from there{actions}will create thousands millions of behavioral ARTERIES in the lives of others as others will also react in return so results is up to all the reactions that was also resulted from the human reactions when they first created human laws that allows or prevent those humans to take actions{accident or not has another relevance to human equations}other than POSITVE ones then the rest repeats by itself to flow to all other human arteries unless there are others or those arteries are from humans who can 'distinguished' & separate positive flows from negative flows the knowledge-know how to distinguish means another human arteries flowing to another maybe better best ones or could be worsts....about proving....there are exceptions to proving for example: would you selflessly carelessly doesnt care of consequences but wants to prove something but that could mean indirectly 'trigger' maybe an ending a lost of an enjoyable present better than nothing cultures even human civilizations along the line one example: dying wealthy american father told his ungrateful harsh looking son who is marrying an opportunistic but beautiful way younger woman not to tell he has cancer has only 1 month to live son wants to prove he can be a man 'without' him {under his}father so to prove{find out} his fiancee's loyalty to him{keeping family secrets}he shared the info about his father's i month to live the son attended a month business affairs in asia but his father died....at the funeral he found out his fiancee married his father few days he left and family lawyers handed him the will asking him to moved out of the house as properties division requested as it is in the will NOW if some intellectual foreigners locals wants this high tech savvy internet play tricked on me{play mind games}in all the things i say and do as a housewife to whatever 'cover up' 'defense' 'political' pride or economic reasons that they have and needed to do it....all i can say I DID what public services makes me whole AS one WOMAN....i am not a threat to anyone meaning maybe the joke[not knowing it}is with the joker....

Posted by: gmmahoney | Jul 10, 2008 2:46:43 AM

@GMMAHONEY

What are you on? what LGAT did you attend before? You seem to be high.

Posted by: The Secret | Jul 10, 2008 4:52:13 AM

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